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	<title>Comments on: East Pacific wave trying to become Tropical Depression Twenty-E</title>
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		<title>By: Typhoon Lupit is forecast to become a super typhoon - threat to Philippines; Tropical Storm Rick should become major hurricane - threat to Mexico — Personal Hurricane Center</title>
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		<dc:creator>Typhoon Lupit is forecast to become a super typhoon - threat to Philippines; Tropical Storm Rick should become major hurricane - threat to Mexico — Personal Hurricane Center</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 16 Oct 2009 11:06:27 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[...] this time, I see no reason to change ideas from yesterday and I like the NHC&#8217;s forecast.  The NHC will try to stay within reason of the models so [...]</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>[...] this time, I see no reason to change ideas from yesterday and I like the NHC&#8217;s forecast.  The NHC will try to stay within reason of the models so [...]</p>
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		<title>By: TanquerayMan</title>
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		<dc:creator>TanquerayMan</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 15 Oct 2009 21:21:20 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>You laughing, yet???</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>You laughing, yet???</p>
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		<title>By: TanquerayMan</title>
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		<dc:creator>TanquerayMan</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 15 Oct 2009 21:19:25 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;blockquote&gt;However, due to the strong mid-level circulation I think the convection will develop further south. &lt;/blockquote&gt;

Good call on that one, too, Tim!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<blockquote><p>However, due to the strong mid-level circulation I think the convection will develop further south. </p></blockquote>
<p>Good call on that one, too, Tim!</p>
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		<title>By: Tim Trice</title>
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		<dc:creator>Tim Trice</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 15 Oct 2009 21:06:26 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Thanks but this one is easy - for now.  Track-wise, models in good agreement with an anchored high.  pretty simple.  intensity is the tough part.  i wouldn&#039;t be a bit surprised if the forecast is under actuality.  We&#039;ll see.  Obviously, I agree with the NHC&#039;s forecast.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Thanks but this one is easy &#8211; for now.  Track-wise, models in good agreement with an anchored high.  pretty simple.  intensity is the tough part.  i wouldn&#8217;t be a bit surprised if the forecast is under actuality.  We&#8217;ll see.  Obviously, I agree with the NHC&#8217;s forecast.</p>
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		<title>By: wrong-forecast</title>
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		<dc:creator>wrong-forecast</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 15 Oct 2009 20:58:40 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>oh please! you guys are ready to kiss his butt over what? a measely depression. so what if  the nhc said the same thing he did.  you fools treat it like the storms done. wait and see if it hits a 3 and baja like he says. I bet you a million dollars it doesn&#039;t come close to either. like the rest of the season it&#039;ll fade</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>oh please! you guys are ready to kiss his butt over what? a measely depression. so what if  the nhc said the same thing he did.  you fools treat it like the storms done. wait and see if it hits a 3 and baja like he says. I bet you a million dollars it doesn&#8217;t come close to either. like the rest of the season it&#8217;ll fade</p>
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		<title>By: AggieMan</title>
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		<dc:creator>AggieMan</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 15 Oct 2009 20:49:10 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I honestly thought he was being too agressive or excited.  That was a good call though, Tim.  Congrats.  Hopefully, the storm will follow suit...</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I honestly thought he was being too agressive or excited.  That was a good call though, Tim.  Congrats.  Hopefully, the storm will follow suit&#8230;</p>
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		<title>By: stormfan</title>
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		<dc:creator>stormfan</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 15 Oct 2009 20:45:33 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>excellent job with the forecast tim, nhc must&#039;ve read your post!!!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>excellent job with the forecast tim, nhc must&#8217;ve read your post!!!</p>
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		<title>By: stormfan</title>
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		<dc:creator>stormfan</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 15 Oct 2009 20:42:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>000
WTPZ45 KNHC 152039
TCDEP5
TROPICAL DEPRESSION TWENTY-E DISCUSSION NUMBER   1
NWS TPC/NATIONAL HURRICANE CENTER MIAMI FL   EP202009
200 PM PDT THU OCT 15 2009

CONVENTIONAL SATELLITE IMAGERY...DATA FROM THE ASCAT
SCATTEROMETER...AND SHIP REPORTS INDICATE THAT THE LOW PRESSURE
AREA CENTERED SOUTH OF MEXICO HAS ACQUIRED SUFFICIENT ORGANIZED
CONVECTION AND CIRCULATION TO BE DESIGNATED A TROPICAL DEPRESSION. 
THE ASCAT DATA SHOWED MAXIMUM WINDS NEAR 30 KT ABOUT 60 N MI
NORTH-NORTHEAST OF THE CENTER...WHICH IS IN GOOD AGREEMENT WITH
SATELLITE INTENSITY ESTIMATES FROM TAFB AND SAB.  THE CIRRUS
OUTFLOW IS CURRENTLY GOOD IN ALL DIRECTIONS.

THE INITIAL MOTION IS A SOMEWHAT UNCERTAIN 305/11.  THE DEPRESSION
IS ON THE SOUTH SIDE OF A LOW/MID-LEVEL RIDGE EXTENDING FROM MEXICO
WESTWARD OVER THE PACIFIC.  THE LARGE-SCALE MODELS FORECAST THIS
FEATURE TO PERSIST FOR THE NEXT 48-72 HR...AND THIS SHOULD STEER
THE DEPRESSION WEST-NORTHWESTWARD AT A SLIGHTLY SLOWER FORWARD
SPEED.  AFTER THAT TIME...THE RIDGE IS FORECAST TO WEAKEN AS A
MID/UPPER-LEVEL TROUGH DEVELOPS OVER THE WESTERN UNITED STATES. 
THE TRACK GUIDANCE DIVERGES DURING THIS TIME.  THE HWRF AND GFDL...
WHICH ARE ON THE RIGHT SIDE OF THE GUIDANCE ENVELOPE...TURN THE
CYCLONE TO THE NORTH OR NORTHEAST BY 120 HR...WITH THE GFDL
FORECASTING THE CENTER TO BE NEAR SOUTHERN BAJA CALIFORNIA.  THE
NOGAPS...CANADIAN...AND UKMET ARE ON THE OTHER SIDE OF THE
ENVELOPE...AND SHOW A SLOW WEST-NORTHWESTWARD MOTION AFTER 72 HR. 
THE GFS AND ECMWF ARE IN BETWEEN THESE EXTREMES...WITH 120 HR
POSITIONS JUST SOUTH OR SOUTHWEST OF SOCORRO ISLAND.  THE FORECAST
TRACK COMPROMISES BETWEEN THESE EXTREMES...WITH THE TRACK IN BEST
AGREEMENT WITH THE TVCN CONSENSUS MODEL FOR THE FIRST 72 HR AND
WITH THE GFS/ECMWF THEREAFTER.

THE DEPRESSION IS EMBEDDED IN A LIGHT VERTICAL WIND SHEAR
ENVIRONMENT OVER VERY WARM WATER...AND THE LARGE-SCALE MODELS
FORECAST THIS TO CONTINUE THROUGH AT LEAST 72 HR.  ALL GUIDANCE IS
FORECASTING SIGNIFICANT AND RAPID STRENGTHENING DURING THE NEXT
72-96 HR...WITH THE HWRF FORECASTING THE CENTRAL PRESSURE TO FALL
BELOW 900 MB.  THE RAPID INTENSIFICATION INDEX OF THE SHIPS MODEL
INDICATES A 60 PERCENT CHANCE OF 30 KT OR MORE INTENSIFICATION
DURING THE NEXT 24 HR.  THE INTENSITY FORECAST THUS CALLS FOR FAST
STRENGTHENING...WITH THE DEPRESSION BECOMING A TROPICAL STORM BY
12 HR...A HURRICANE IN ABOUT 36 HR...AND A MAJOR HURRICANE IN ABOUT
72 HR.  THE INTENSITY FORECAST IS SIMILAR TO THE SHIPS AND
INTENSITY CONSENSUS MODELS.  THERE IS A CHANCE THAT THE CYCLONE
COULD STRENGTHEN FASTER THAN CURRENTLY FORECAST.

THE INITIAL RADII OF 12 FT SEAS ARE BASED ON TWO SHIP REPORTS
130 AND 170 N MI FROM THE CENTER IN THE EASTERN SEMICIRCLE.


FORECAST POSITIONS AND MAX WINDS

INITIAL      15/2100Z 12.1N  97.0W    30 KT
 12HR VT     16/0600Z 12.6N  98.2W    40 KT
 24HR VT     16/1800Z 13.0N  99.7W    55 KT
 36HR VT     17/0600Z 13.4N 101.3W    65 KT
 48HR VT     17/1800Z 13.9N 103.3W    80 KT
 72HR VT     18/1800Z 15.0N 108.0W   100 KT
 96HR VT     19/1800Z 17.0N 111.5W   110 KT
120HR VT     20/1800Z 19.0N 112.5W   115 KT

$$
FORECASTER BEVEN</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>000<br />
WTPZ45 KNHC 152039<br />
TCDEP5<br />
TROPICAL DEPRESSION TWENTY-E DISCUSSION NUMBER   1<br />
NWS TPC/NATIONAL HURRICANE CENTER MIAMI FL   EP202009<br />
200 PM PDT THU OCT 15 2009</p>
<p>CONVENTIONAL SATELLITE IMAGERY&#8230;DATA FROM THE ASCAT<br />
SCATTEROMETER&#8230;AND SHIP REPORTS INDICATE THAT THE LOW PRESSURE<br />
AREA CENTERED SOUTH OF MEXICO HAS ACQUIRED SUFFICIENT ORGANIZED<br />
CONVECTION AND CIRCULATION TO BE DESIGNATED A TROPICAL DEPRESSION.<br />
THE ASCAT DATA SHOWED MAXIMUM WINDS NEAR 30 KT ABOUT 60 N MI<br />
NORTH-NORTHEAST OF THE CENTER&#8230;WHICH IS IN GOOD AGREEMENT WITH<br />
SATELLITE INTENSITY ESTIMATES FROM TAFB AND SAB.  THE CIRRUS<br />
OUTFLOW IS CURRENTLY GOOD IN ALL DIRECTIONS.</p>
<p>THE INITIAL MOTION IS A SOMEWHAT UNCERTAIN 305/11.  THE DEPRESSION<br />
IS ON THE SOUTH SIDE OF A LOW/MID-LEVEL RIDGE EXTENDING FROM MEXICO<br />
WESTWARD OVER THE PACIFIC.  THE LARGE-SCALE MODELS FORECAST THIS<br />
FEATURE TO PERSIST FOR THE NEXT 48-72 HR&#8230;AND THIS SHOULD STEER<br />
THE DEPRESSION WEST-NORTHWESTWARD AT A SLIGHTLY SLOWER FORWARD<br />
SPEED.  AFTER THAT TIME&#8230;THE RIDGE IS FORECAST TO WEAKEN AS A<br />
MID/UPPER-LEVEL TROUGH DEVELOPS OVER THE WESTERN UNITED STATES.<br />
THE TRACK GUIDANCE DIVERGES DURING THIS TIME.  THE HWRF AND GFDL&#8230;<br />
WHICH ARE ON THE RIGHT SIDE OF THE GUIDANCE ENVELOPE&#8230;TURN THE<br />
CYCLONE TO THE NORTH OR NORTHEAST BY 120 HR&#8230;WITH THE GFDL<br />
FORECASTING THE CENTER TO BE NEAR SOUTHERN BAJA CALIFORNIA.  THE<br />
NOGAPS&#8230;CANADIAN&#8230;AND UKMET ARE ON THE OTHER SIDE OF THE<br />
ENVELOPE&#8230;AND SHOW A SLOW WEST-NORTHWESTWARD MOTION AFTER 72 HR.<br />
THE GFS AND ECMWF ARE IN BETWEEN THESE EXTREMES&#8230;WITH 120 HR<br />
POSITIONS JUST SOUTH OR SOUTHWEST OF SOCORRO ISLAND.  THE FORECAST<br />
TRACK COMPROMISES BETWEEN THESE EXTREMES&#8230;WITH THE TRACK IN BEST<br />
AGREEMENT WITH THE TVCN CONSENSUS MODEL FOR THE FIRST 72 HR AND<br />
WITH THE GFS/ECMWF THEREAFTER.</p>
<p>THE DEPRESSION IS EMBEDDED IN A LIGHT VERTICAL WIND SHEAR<br />
ENVIRONMENT OVER VERY WARM WATER&#8230;AND THE LARGE-SCALE MODELS<br />
FORECAST THIS TO CONTINUE THROUGH AT LEAST 72 HR.  ALL GUIDANCE IS<br />
FORECASTING SIGNIFICANT AND RAPID STRENGTHENING DURING THE NEXT<br />
72-96 HR&#8230;WITH THE HWRF FORECASTING THE CENTRAL PRESSURE TO FALL<br />
BELOW 900 MB.  THE RAPID INTENSIFICATION INDEX OF THE SHIPS MODEL<br />
INDICATES A 60 PERCENT CHANCE OF 30 KT OR MORE INTENSIFICATION<br />
DURING THE NEXT 24 HR.  THE INTENSITY FORECAST THUS CALLS FOR FAST<br />
STRENGTHENING&#8230;WITH THE DEPRESSION BECOMING A TROPICAL STORM BY<br />
12 HR&#8230;A HURRICANE IN ABOUT 36 HR&#8230;AND A MAJOR HURRICANE IN ABOUT<br />
72 HR.  THE INTENSITY FORECAST IS SIMILAR TO THE SHIPS AND<br />
INTENSITY CONSENSUS MODELS.  THERE IS A CHANCE THAT THE CYCLONE<br />
COULD STRENGTHEN FASTER THAN CURRENTLY FORECAST.</p>
<p>THE INITIAL RADII OF 12 FT SEAS ARE BASED ON TWO SHIP REPORTS<br />
130 AND 170 N MI FROM THE CENTER IN THE EASTERN SEMICIRCLE.</p>
<p>FORECAST POSITIONS AND MAX WINDS</p>
<p>INITIAL      15/2100Z 12.1N  97.0W    30 KT<br />
 12HR VT     16/0600Z 12.6N  98.2W    40 KT<br />
 24HR VT     16/1800Z 13.0N  99.7W    55 KT<br />
 36HR VT     17/0600Z 13.4N 101.3W    65 KT<br />
 48HR VT     17/1800Z 13.9N 103.3W    80 KT<br />
 72HR VT     18/1800Z 15.0N 108.0W   100 KT<br />
 96HR VT     19/1800Z 17.0N 111.5W   110 KT<br />
120HR VT     20/1800Z 19.0N 112.5W   115 KT</p>
<p>$$<br />
FORECASTER BEVEN</p>
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		<title>By: MJ</title>
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		<dc:creator>MJ</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 15 Oct 2009 20:29:15 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>i don&#039;t know what header it&#039;s issued under but it&#039;s a reassignment of numbers.  They dropped the 93E classification and reassigned 20W.  Doesn&#039;t say if it&#039;ll be a depression or a storm.  Patience, my young one...</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>i don&#8217;t know what header it&#8217;s issued under but it&#8217;s a reassignment of numbers.  They dropped the 93E classification and reassigned 20W.  Doesn&#8217;t say if it&#8217;ll be a depression or a storm.  Patience, my young one&#8230;</p>
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		<title>By: stormfan</title>
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		<dc:creator>stormfan</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 15 Oct 2009 20:21:36 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>what&#039;s a renum statement?

so are they going to name it a depression or a storm?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>what&#8217;s a renum statement?</p>
<p>so are they going to name it a depression or a storm?</p>
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